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Darcy Hickson's avatar

Perhaps this is a stinky legacy of the pandemic, where the Liberals maximized the ability to contain the opposition parties and were able to control the narrative without need to consult.

One of the first casualties of the pandemic was a functioning Parliament. One of the first casualties of this Trudeau succession is a functioning Parliament. Lessons were well learned and the media seems to be okay with that.

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Angie's avatar

Yes but during the FAKE pandemic the vast majority of Conservatives took multiple doses and some boosters of the modified mRNA Gene Therapy platform injections which change gene expression and could never stop transmission or lessen symptoms.

If the Conservative Party and conservative media were really on our side...this could never have happened. THEY ARE ALL IN ON THE COVID-19 LIES, TREASON, RACKETEERING AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

There was no pandemic.

https://denisrancourt.substack.com/p/there-was-no-pandemic

https://thenationaltelegraph.com/national/canadian-crown-corporations-coerced-employees-with-fake-vaccine-mandate/

https://jphe.amegroups.org/article/view/10515/html

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgaf064/7990879

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Thorne Sutherland's avatar

Yes, they abused their power during the pandemic, it was a world wide problem.

But that was the past and we need to move on to the latest abuses of power, which have been many.

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Angie's avatar

Cowards obeyed during the FAKE pandemic.

This was an unprecedented propaganda campaign which killed, maimed and bankrupted millions globally.

We want the perpetrators of these egregious CRIMES to be held accountable.

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Rene Wells's avatar

Power can be such an intoxicating thing, its elixir all the more enticing as those government cheques keep rolling out to the media, numbing their senses about the need to conduct a few checks into what their new master and his crew are up to.

Say, wasn't this the same government that left the country rudderless on January 6th, the start of its unchecked power after imposing the shroud that is prorogation? At a time when we are in desperate need of Vierte Gewalt, we hear the sounds of crickets coming back at us.

Keep digging, Mr. Menzies, as others in your craft appear content with towing the government line for them...

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Ken Schultz's avatar

Hmmm .... January 6th, you say ....

Felicitous (or otherwise?) date given the anniversary? Just have to consider these things.

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Rene Wells's avatar

Surprising that Mr. Trudeau and his transition team never considered the significance of that date within the progressive world south of the border when engaging on their little parliamentary insurrection.

Oh well, the two now share that date...

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Iris.K's avatar

When he was still in the running for Liberal leader, Carney said something like: "I'm only here because there's a crisis; you wouldn't see me if there wasn't a crisis." The extreme self-regard inherent in that statement was telling. He's obviously doing us all a favour by riding in to save us in our desperate straits. Naturally conventions and restraint are for plebs, not the likes of him.

One small quibble - while I agree that Carney is going well out of bounds during this caretaker period, it would have been helpful to see details on the justifications provided by those who feel he is within his rights to act as he is doing. It's always good to really understand the views of those you disagree with.

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Darcy Hickson's avatar

The tried and tested approach to whipping the people into line is to create a crisis and exploit it. Trump is doing this out in plain view, which is unusual.

Carney is more subtle because he is implying that the crisis created by Trump is OUR crisis and only he can save us from ruin.

The problem is that there are differing views on the root of the current crisis. If I were an auto parts worker in Ontario I could easily identify with Carney’s projection of “crisis”.

If I was a single Mom working in the service industry and barely making rent, the root cause of the crisis is domestic and attaching blame may find its way back to the Liberal Party who are manufacturing a crisis to make her forget about it.

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Angie's avatar

Yes and the "crisis" was manufactured just like the 2008 financial crisis, 9/11, the Manchester "bombings", the Gulf of Tonkin, the FLQ crisis, etc.

Arrest Mark Carney for his administering of Trudeau's Covid-19 military operation FAKE PANDEMIC which enabled the elimination of hundreds of thousands of Canadians from government pensions, payrolls and benefits thus ERASING THOSE GOVERNMENT LIABILITIES and maximizing stakeholder profits while simultaneously injecting Canadians with nanotechnology biosensors for surveillance under the skin via the Internet of Bio-Nano Things contrary to Sections 184(1) and 430(5) of the Criminal Code of Canada. This was de facto DISASTER CAPITALISM using MKULTRA SHOCK THERAPY which enabled the biggest transfer (theft) of wealth in Canadian history.

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Hans Gruber Central Banker's avatar

If you've staged a coup, and the election is a mere formality, then Max Croney's behavior makes perfect sense.

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Angie's avatar

The Covid-19 military operation FAKE PANDEMIC was the corporate coup détat of western governments, the banking sector and their public-private partners ( multinational corporations).

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dan mcco's avatar

I'm surprised that you are disappointed in our legacy media. You've had years to reset your expectations. The lack of journalism pre-dates the latest government payola. As to Carney's behaviour, what would you expect from the ethically challenged LPC and Carney's coterie of slimy advisors who sharpened their smarminess on Trudeau.

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kRockit's avatar

I don't see the opposition parties making too much of it. They have been cowed into silence lest they seem to be taking sides with the big bad orange man from down south.

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Bob's avatar

I actually see a lot of similarities to Kamala Harris and how she was installed as Democrat leader without anything resembling democratic process. The entire establishment simply has taken sides from the media to business interests to the education system. Carney just flew in. was feted by the Globe and Mail and CBC and he just walks around as if it's his. And maybe it is. Trump is an anomaly. Carney and Harris as caretakers for something happening that's much larger that I can see that has been forming for decades - at least since the New Left and the 60's. The elites have taken sides on demographics in this country and around the West. There was a good piece in The Hub today about the NDP and it's demographic make up in 2025. https://thehub.ca/2025/04/07/wodek-szemberg-understanding-the-ndps-identity-crisis/

Menzies mentions democratic norms in the piece and I agree that our elites do not feel that more democracy is good. Majority opinion is bad and not to be trusted. What do you think will happen with the online harms bill if Ontario and BC hand Carney and majority? Will we still be able to have these conversations in Canada? Serious question.

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Angus MacAskill's avatar

A guy jets over from Europe, wins a party leadership contest, walks into the Prime Minister's office of a G7 country, assumes all the power of the executive branch, and starts committing that country to various policies, all without having a seat in the legislature, or ever having won any kind of public election.

If this is how things work here, maybe Canadians ought to take a time-out on smugly lecturing other countries about democratic norms.

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Pat Robinson's avatar

Rules are for little people and nothing is more clear in the last decade that the liberals don’t feel the rules apply to them.

Why would an autocrat like Carney be any different?

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S.McRobbie's avatar

Norms are so yesterday. They are 'queering' democracy to use the parlance. So transgressive! Get with it, Peter.

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The Nemeth Report's avatar

I guess ignoring convention and exercising power without due regard for democracy are the kinds of "Value(s)" Carney's book is about. As much as I disagree with activist James Hardwick on most things, he isn't really wrong in saying, "Carney’s vision for the future of Canada is an oligarchy of better-behaved oligarchs."

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Marco Navarro-Génie's avatar

None of his calls includes Beijing. Carney should be talking to them to protect western Canadian farmers from the current Chinese tariffs.

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Peter Menzies's avatar

Of course. But nice PR chit chats for good press with Schult and Starmer. It’s a smooth takeover

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Douglas Sell's avatar

As a food producer from Alberta, I find your jesting sadly entertaining. :(

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Gavin Bamber's avatar

Carneyage .... noun... when an unelected leader ignores the legal norms, killing a large number of election-period expectations

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Dave's avatar

100%

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Joel Watson's avatar

Exactly

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Bill MacGougan's avatar

He has used the “if I’m elected” statement a number of times and it would be quibbling to get into which of these meetings are critical and which are not. However, I strongly agree he should be conferring with the other party leaders, pre and post engagement with foreign leaders or premiers. Very disappointed that he’s not doing that. I wonder if Poilievre or Singh have not brought this up directly with the “PMO.”

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JGP's avatar

Gads, Peter. I fear you are the last of a breed. The industry you come out of, and are trying to re-direct (reform?) is a propaganda machine, living off the government taking money from taxpayers to pay its salaries. I am a bit of a political maven. I can tell when I talk to people when they get their "information" from the CBC and CTV. I am scared because so many do.

Getting from A to B is work. That's why we have cars. Mostly they work. Being informed about our country and its politics is work. That's why we have media. The MSM doesn't work. They are like cars that have radio, burn gas, and only turn left.

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Thorne Sutherland's avatar

It's almost as if the Liberals know the fix is in.

I mean, I haven't seen a single election sign anywhere other than those for Conservative candidates. I just spent the weekend in and around the Vancouver area and nothing, not even NDP or Green Party signs, only Conservative.

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